Truth Will Out

The deniers lost.

Their credibility is so low that further efforts to deny the truth only make it more obvious. The only people who will buy their utter crap, are those who cannot be reasoned with.

For twelve years I’ve been blogging, mainly to prove how utterly wrong, how empty-headed, how gullible are the “arguments” from climate deniers. I followed others, yet more joined later, and together we did it. They got pwned.

Problem is: in the decades it took to accomplish this, our society, our governments, our world, has not faced the real problem. The problem they were trying so hard to deny all along. Yes, truth will out, but it can take its time getting its shoes on.

Deniers of the crisis of man-made climate change: you have done wrong. You have done evil. Foul deeds will rise, though all the earth o’erwhelm them, to men’s eyes.

21 responses to “Truth Will Out

  1. “deniers… you have done evil.” Quite right. They have evolved now and prefer to act like the adults in the room, acting like things are not now very, very serious. They have regrouped now as the Titanic Deck Chair crew.

  2. And I’m sure they’re crying all the way to the bank. Or they’re too stupid to know they are wrong. Or they don’t care as long as they can piss off the “Libruls”. They don’t believe in objective truth (only “alternative facts”). Their altruism is limited to immediate family. And they have no shame.

    Basically, it’s the 99% of humans that give the 1% of decent humans a bad name.

  3. Hansen made headlines in 2008 saying he expected to be called to testify against fossil fuel company executives when they were tried for crimes against humanity.

  4. I want to thank you Tamino for putting in this effort on your blog. You have been a real support to me in my struggle against the deniers and you should get a medal for it. Providing basic statistical checks of the data has been a major point of grounding on the science, for me and many others. No other page has provided quite the truth point as yours has. I am sure your sacrifice is equally appreciated by many – congratulations.
    On the wider point, we cannot think this is over yet. The struggle will continue and it will be those of us that truly understand the scope of the impacts to come who will have to lead.

    • Tony McLeod

      I would endorse these sentiments, thank you Sir Tamino.

    • John Brookes

      Agreed. I think Tamino’s comprehensive debunking of many of the “trickier” deniers arguments has been both entertaining and helped finish the deniers off. Soon even the fools who remain deniers will notice that the smarter ones have deserted.

    • ditto, from me too

      and I have noticed a change in the last 6 to 8 months – the deniers are moving to the flat-earth end of the nonsense spectrum, and flat earth is a tough gig to promote at the best of times (and they give it a pretty good go!!)

  5. A few Republican politicians have apparently decided they’ve ridden frank denial as far as they can. See this article in today’s New York Times: In a Switch, Some Republicans Start Citing Climate Change as Driving Their Policies. Why am I not surprised?

  6. David Lewis

    The thing about all the denial that has led to our current state is that it takes willing buyers to buy what the deniers were selling.

    Leonard Cohen:

    “…Everybody knows the war is over
    Everybody knows the good guys lost…

    …Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
    Everybody knows that the captain lied
    Everybody got this broken feeling
    Like their father or their dog just died
    Everybody talking to their pockets
    Everybody wants a box of chocolates
    And a long-stem rose
    Everybody knows…”

    • Funny. I played this over and over the day after the 2016 election. Wonder why.

      Lately (ever since the Dems took back the House and the Meuller report was released), I’ve been playing Roisin Murphy’s “The Truth,” which features the refrain, “You can’t hide from the truth, ’cause the truth is all there is.” For some reason, I find myself wanting to go to Lafayette Square and blast it toward 1600 Penn. Ave. repeating over and over.

  7. David B. Benson

    You are too kind to the denialati.

  8. But the denial will never stop. Grabbing hold of a Tiger’s tail is a stupid thing to do, but once you have hold you can never let go.

    • Eventually the tiger will die of old age. Most deniers are old.

      But yeah, whilst we have definitely won the argument, we’re a long way from done with the fallout – especially in the US, which is extra fucked-up. And now we have to deal with something much slipperier: delayers and incumbents, and can’t-really-be-arseders. It’s already obvious in the UK that whilst XR have succeeded in forcing a big shift, TPTB are still reluctant to move anything like fast enough, claiming that they have been doing an excellent job anyway and everything is on-track. We’ll find out over the next few months whether anything has _really_ changed.

      • Well, the UK just declared a climate emergency. Maybe things have changed. (On the other hand the (5!) cases to stop Heathrow Airport expansion as unlawful got thrown out on the same day, so the govt has to _decide_ to stop that madness – it’s can’t be forced to just because it’s really stupid). And we are very likely to adopt a net-zero target in the next couple of weeks – again 1st country to do so. Then we just need some policies to match…

        Will everyone else follow, I guess is the question, and how fast? Because if they don’t we are still all screwed. And can we please be a bit more 2035 than 2050? Even 2035 is pushing our luck IMHO.

        And someone needs to give Roger Hallam a medal.

      • Good to know. Off to find out more about *that* story–!

    • Your patience there is commendable Doc. Interesting to see a reasonably well-educated individual unable to get beyond the ‘small numbers’ thing, presumably due to motivated reasoning. And claiming to have swapped from being a believer in the past, after research. It’s quite hard to understand how such people have invested effort and still reached profoundly wrong conclusions, but remain sure they got it right.
      The numbers of those people are far from trivial, especially in the US, although most of them haven’t really thought about it very hard at all – they just found some confirmatory info once and left it at that.

      • Thanks. It’s amazing to me to see such a clear example of ignoring, minimizing and obfuscating, all completely without any sort of positive evidence, but also without any apparent awareness of what is being done. One rhetorical “hand” knows not what the other does, it seems. The ‘motivation’ in the motivated reasoning would seem to be quite strong.

        Perhaps it’s denial in the strictest sense, which is that of an emotional defense against a truth too unpalatable to contemplate.

  9. Some people will continue to deny as long as they can, and then they’ll find a way to blame the scientists. Our species is a blight on what is an otherwise beautiful world.