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Attack of the 50-foot Tornado

May 13, 2008 · 45 Comments

I happened on a blog entry about the recent tornado victims which mentioned, in passing, that global warming has been suggested as a cause of an increase in the number of tornadoes. This surprised me, because I’ve never heard of such a connection before. Unfortunately, the blog entry provided no reference and didn’t seem to be written by the scientifically savvy, so there was no real clue about the source of the claim, nor was it credible based only on the blog entry. Nonetheless, it raised the question whether there’s been a change in tornado frequency during the modern global warming era. So I tracked down some statistics on tornadoes in the U.S., and did some exploring.


The most basic statistic is the number of tornadoes per year:

There’s no doubt that the number of recorded tornadoes has increased sharply during the time that records have been maintained. But in large part this is a selection effect: as population has increased and technology improved, our ability to record the presence of tornadoes has likewise improved. Hence there may not actually be more tornadoes, we may simply have noticed more of them. In fact, considerable research has indicated that tornado detection and reporting have improved over the years, so even though the increase in the number of recorded tornadoes is strong, there’s doubt about whether or not there’s been a real increase in tornado occurence in the U.S. It’s also worth noting that since about 1990 (when technology reached an advanced stage and U.S. population was significantly higher than 1950), there’s no indication of a trend in the total number of recorded tornadoes.

There is, however, an interesting event in the annual count of U.S. tornadoes. The year 2004 saw a record number, some 1,819 tornadoes. This count is 3 standard deviations above the trend line, while no other single year has a count exceeding two standard deviations above the trend line. Therefore there’s strong evidence that 2004 was an anomalous year, with dramatically more tornadoes — even accounting for the trend (possibly due to selection effects) — than any other in the observational record since 1950.

In part the large number of tornadoes in 2004 is due to the very large number during May of that year:

For the month of May, both 2003 and 2004 are anomalous years. 2004 is nearly 3 standard deviations above the trend line, and 2003 more than 3 standard deviations above the trend line, making both of them exceptional. This is further evidence that the most recent decade has actually seen more tornadoes than previous decades. Still, with only a little less than 6 decades of reliable data, it’s hard to be sure.

Tornadoes can occur during all months of the year, but May turns out to be the month during which they’re most frequent:

The warming during spring increases the chance that warm and cold air can meet, leading to the kind of storms that spawn large numbers of tornadoes.

It occured to me that I might gain insight by examining the number of large tornadoes over time; larger tornadoes are far less likely to be missed (and therefore undercounted) than small ones. One measure of a tornado’s size is its strength on the Fujita scale. But research reveals that Fujita scale estimates are subjective, have changed over time, and are possibly related to a tornado’s destruction rather than simply its size or power. Hence researchers have expressed doubt over the usefulness of trend estimates in the numbers of tornadoes falling into the various Fujita scale classes. Fortunately, the data I found also indicates a tornado’s width, i.e., the width of the tornado’s base. This is an imperfect but less subjective estimate, and is not related to the destruction caused by a tornado, so it might make a suitable separator between larger and smaller tornadoes. The largest tornado ever recorded occured in Nebraska in 2004, with a base estimated at 4400 yards wide (a two-and-a-half mile wide tornado!). So, I counted the number of tornadoes each year with a base 50 feet or larger, 100 feet, 200 feet, 300 feet, 600 feet, and 1000 feet or larger. From base widths larger than 0 feet (all tornadoes) to 600 feet, here are the annual counts:

The first thing I notice is that for 1998, the number of 50-foot wide tornadoes is the same as the total number. This is, frankly, hard to believe; it’s much more likely that width statistics for small tornadoes were poorly recorded that year, and that tornadoes with no width estimate were arbitrarily assigned a width of 50 feet. In fact it turns out that no tornado in 1998 has a recorded width less than 30 yards, or 90 feet, although two tornadoes that year in Minnesota are recorded as over a mile wide. It seems overwhelmingly likely that the 30-yard width is not an actual occurence, but a default value assigned to tornadoes of unknown width. So, it won’t do to analyze the number of 50-foot tornadoes, since that number is clearly unreliable for 1998 and possibly for other years as well.

But the largest tornadoes are more likely to be correctly represented in the records. So I looked at the number of tornadoes at least 600 feet wide, and at least 1000 feet wide. Tornadoes with a base which is two or three football fields across (or larger) aren’t likely to be missed, especially since such large ones tend to last longer and travel futher, increasing the likelihood of detection. Here are the annual counts for 600-foot-wide-or-larger and 1000-foot-wide-or-larger tornadoes:

There’s a clear change in the number of recorded tornadoes this large over time. The number of 600-foot tornadoes increased sharply in 1995, and the number of 1000-foot tornadoes in 1996. The 8 years with the most 600-foot tornadoes have all occured since 1995, and 8 of the 9 years with the most 1000-foot tornadoes since 1996. The change isn’t just a visual impression, it’s strongly statistically significant:

Also interesting is the fact that neither 600-foot nor 1000-foot tornadoes show any trend prior to 1995/1996. This indicates that their detection is not strongly affected by observational limitations, and lends credence to the idea that the strong trend in the total count of all tornadoes prior to 1990 actually is a selection effect rather than a real trend. I find very strong evidence that the number of large tornadoes increased, rather dramatically in fact, around 1995/1996. The size of the increase and the lack of a prior trend support the idea that it’s a real rather than observational change.

Why the change in tornado counts? One suggestion I found in the literature is that global warming has increased water temperatures, leading to more humidity, especially from the Gulf of Mexico, which provides fuel for the storms which spawn tornadoes. But I haven’t seen solid evidence of this, only speculation. It certainly makes sense that warmer air temperatures and greater humidity could lead to more, and larger, tornadoes. But until I see more evidence, I’ll continue to consider this speculation. In the meantime, one hopes that the increased number of violent tornadoes in the U.S. is only a temporary phenomenon.

UPDATE

Harold Brooks comments that the definition of, and measuring procedures for, width data which is the basis for some of this analysis, has changed, particularly in 1994 (just before the noted changes in the numbers of “large” tornadoes in the data). Hence the shifts noted here are likely a result of changes in data procedures, rather than actual changes in the frequency of large tornadoes.

The fact that tornado data are inconsistent throughout the last half-century is bad news. But on that basis, there doesn’t seem to be evidence of a notable change in tornado properties in the U.S., and that’s good news!

Categories: Global Warming

45 responses so far ↓

  • Steve Bloom // May 13, 2008 at 4:23 am

    I wonder of Gulf SSTs had any sort of coincident up-tick.

  • henry // May 13, 2008 at 4:45 am

    Besides the warm, humid, tropical air, some weathermen are saying that the colder air over the northern US also helps make stronger storms.

    There HAS been colder air over the northern US so far this year: decreased anomalies for the first three months.

  • freetoken // May 13, 2008 at 8:06 am

    One aspect you did not touch on is the possible shift in seasonality of tornadoes. That is, more tornadoes coming earlier in the year, even if total numbers aren’t increasing. Reference: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/torn/monthlytornstats.html

  • Lost and Confused // May 13, 2008 at 8:34 am

    Tamino, there seems to be something wrong with your data for the year 1998. Looking at your source, the numbers I get for 1998 are:

    30 yards or below: 620 tornadoes
    31 to 50 yards: 324 tornadoes
    51 to 100 yards: 252 tornadoes
    101 to 300 yards: 149 tornadoes
    301 to 500 yards: 42 tornadoes
    501 to 1,000 yards: 32 tornadoes
    1,001 or more yards: 21 tornadoes

    I would have gone by feet, but I do not know how you rounded your numbers (there are no measurements under 30 yards in the 1998) record. Even so, it is clear the number of 50-foot tornadoes in 1998 could not be the same as the total number of tornadoes that year, as there are some 768 tornadoes measuring 150 feet or more.

    I have rechecked the source (both the whole record and the 90-99 record), but I have no idea where you got those number for 1998.

    [Response: Clearly I was unclear. By "50-foot tornado" I meant any that was estimated at 50 ft *or larger*. I find only one tornado in the 1998 data with a width estimate less than 30 yds (90 ft), so in effect, all (but one of) the 1998 tornadoes are listed as 50 ft or larger.]

  • The Tuatara // May 13, 2008 at 11:18 am

    You’ll find Jeff Masters’ most recent post interesting. They’re coming early this year. (Masters has lots of post on this sort of thing.)

    [Response: I actually noticed a consistent phase shift in the tornado season, with the season tending to come later in the year, *until* 2006-2007 for which the phase returned to earlier values. So, I considered the phase shift evidence to be inconclusive.]

  • Hank Roberts // May 13, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Al Gore anticipated this, in one sentence. See these and a few intervening posts on how it may work:
    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/04/shear-turbulence/#comment-31577
    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/04/shear-turbulence/#comment-32253

  • Hank Roberts // May 13, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    PS, I _think_ diameter is calculated from the width of the ground track damage after the fact. No cite.

  • Harold Brooks // May 13, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    There are lots of problems with the database that lead to some of the results you show.

    First, related to the reported change in widths, in 1994, the National Weather Service changed the definition of width from mean width to maximum width. Second, in 1995, there was a change in database software and how the forecasters who entered the data into the database did their job. The latter had huge effects on the non-tornadic wind data with a dramatic increase in the number of reports that were entered as exactly 50 kts starting then.

    It’s not at all obvious to me how a mean or maximum width is determined in the vast majority of cases. Damage surveys aren’t done at all in a large number of cases and it’s very rare for the entire path to be surveyed. I doubt if more than a handful of the damage paths of weak tornadoes were even looked at by anyone with training, so I’d consider anything on width and length from the F0 reports as very suspect and the F1 as questionable. In general, the width data is probably the poorest quality aspect of a database fraught with problems. I’ve got a paper on the relationship of width and length to reported intensity that touches on a number of issues:

    http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/users/brooks/public_html/papers/lengthwidth.pdf

    This paper touches on one of the changes in the intensity rating and I’m co-author on another paper in review that documents some recent (post-1999) changes in ratings that appear to be an unintended response to policy changes.

    [Response: Thanks very much for the information. On that basis, it looks like the change in "large" tornado frequency in 1995/1996 is another effect of the data, not the physical phenomenon.

    I'll give the paper a good read, and if you have a link to a manuscript of your submitted paper I'd love to see that too.]

  • bobw // May 13, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    I admit that I am skeptical of CO2 warming having a “significant” (per my definition) on climate. Some of this my skepticism is due to the constant claims of phenomena that can be attributed to global warming. It is difficult to sort out truth from exaggerations.

    Thank you for an honest look at the data and not drawing conclusions where they are not supported.

  • Tom Woods // May 13, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    About 15% of the tornados in 2004 can also be attributed to the landfalling hurricanes that occured during that year. Ivan in particular had a very high number of tornados - 117.

    Francis contributed 101 tornados to the 2004 total.

    While tornados in landfalling hurricanes is not uncommon, a number over 100 is quite unusual.

  • Ian Forrester // May 13, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    While the number of tornadoes in the US does not appear to be rising there appears to be a significant increase in Canada.

    A listing of Canadian tornadoes is given at:

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/698lvt

    Here is a breakdown of tornado numbers by decade:

    40’s - 3
    50’s - 9
    60’s - 4
    70’s - 8
    80′2 - 19
    90’s - 23
    00’s - 28 (00-07)
    00’s - 35 (extrapolated to a full decade)

    So it is very likely that the range of tornadoes is migrating north. No doubt we will hear from the deniers who will insist that the higher numbers are due to better reporting. No doubt some of the increase will be due to that but the increase is so large that that cannot be the only factor.

  • dean_1230 // May 13, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    Tamino,

    Why do you say that tornado counts being inconsistent is “bad news”? I understand the next statement (that a lack of increase is good…or at least not bad), but I can’t see why an inconsistent number of tornadoes is bad?

    Likewise, Ian, I strongly question your supposition that the huge spike is due to more than just ‘better reporting”. Nothing has had a bigger impact on sightings than Doppler radar. And now that Doppler radar has become commonplace, I am not at all surprised in the huge increase in numbers over what is probably a very sparsely populated area.

    Similarly, I’d be surprised if there was such a huge increase in Canadian tornadoes without a noticeable increase in US tornadoes. Weather patterns don’t recognize geo-political borders!

    [Response: What I mean is that the lack of consistent *data* over the half-century is a bad thing. If we had consistent data, we could address the question of possible changes in tornado frequency and strength with much greater precision.]

  • Hank Roberts // May 13, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    As the wheat-growing region is moving north into Canada, I imagine tornados would also. Many weather-related isoclines are moving northward.

  • Simon D // May 13, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Tamino - It might be worth pulling out the El Nino signal. The change in atmic dynamics during ENSOs often bring more tornadoes to the S and SE US.

  • David B. Benson // May 13, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    Hank Roberts // May 13, 2008 at 5:41 pm wrote “Many weather-related isoclines are moving northward.” This may be, in part, related to precession. It certainly seems to be for the location of the ITCZ in South America:

    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/290/5500/2285

    entitled “Reconstruction of the Amazon Basin Effective Moisture Availability over the Past 14,000 Years”.

  • S2 // May 13, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    This may be, in part, related to precession.

    I doubt if you could detect any impact due to precession on timescales less than several centuries - the rate of change is slow, circa 1.5 degrees of rotation per century.

  • David B. Benson // May 13, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    S2 // May 13, 2008 at 9:34 pm — Yes, maybe 20 of them. But the actual effects on percipitation are not necessarily linear, so it is just possible that we are only now seeing some of the effects.

    I’m not attempting to say this is the only explanation. Just that it might be kept in mind as a small contributor.

  • anon y mouse // May 14, 2008 at 12:03 am


    As the wheat-growing region is moving north into Canada, I imagine tornados would also. Many weather-related isoclines are moving northward.

    But the big question is… are trailer parks moving north? If that’s the case, tornadoes may simply be following their primary prey…

  • Selma // May 14, 2008 at 12:41 am

    I haven’t commented for a while but I wanted to say how useful and informative I find your blog. You put a lot of work into it. Thank you.

  • Arch Stanton // May 14, 2008 at 1:12 am

    Thanks Tamino. Great analysis. I’ve been waiting for the press to quote someone blaming climate change for an increase in tornadoes.

    But more importantly: Can we expect an increase in attacks by 50 foot women?

  • Dano // May 14, 2008 at 3:25 am

    Keep doing this. This is good stuff. It is needed.

    Best,

    D

  • Lost and Confused // May 14, 2008 at 4:41 am

    Thanks for the clarification. That makes more sense, and I probably should have realized what you were saying (I even noted there were no small tornadoes that year in my post, but failed to connect the dots).

    Incidentally, if you want more reason not to trust records of small tornadoes you should take a look at the year 1999. That year measured 1367 tornadoes, of which 360 (a quarter) were zero yards wide (never touched down). Most had lengths of less than half a mile. This is immediately following 1998, which had no tornadoes measuring zero yards (aside from a null record).

    Sticking with the larger tornadoes definitely seems like a good idea.

  • Tenney Naumer // May 14, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    Tamino, thanks for all the great work you do!

    Also, as a Tri-State native, I always thought that the Tri-State tornado was wider than 2.5 miles (even 6 miles wide by some estimates, although it was likely a cluster of tornadoes).

  • Harold Pierce Jr // May 15, 2008 at 7:13 am

    UHI Effect

    Any relationship to large urban areas? Does hot air rising from urban areas increase the velocity of ground wind which might increase formation frequency?

  • Lab Lemming // May 15, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Isn’t population shrinking in much of the great plains?

  • JCH // May 15, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    The Great Plains is still losing population. Many of its cities, however, are growing larger. Sioux Falls, for instance, is booming.

  • JCH // May 15, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    The current La Nina, about which speculation was a continuation of strong conditions into the summer, is instead quickly sliding into neutral right now.

    I’m surprised people are not talking about this as she inspired a lot of bull on blogs.

  • Harold Pierce Jr // May 15, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    Attn: JCH

    Go to NOAA home page and click on NOAA Watch and check the El Nino/La Nina Index Meter. The needle is at -1.1 deg. The neutral condition starts at -0.5
    deg. The lowest the meter went was -1.5 deg. So presently there is still a fairly strong La Nina condition.

    Typical the La Nina condition weaakens in late spring and summer since the ocean above the equator becomes more strongly warmed.

  • Brian Klappstein // May 15, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    JCH:

    “La Nina….is quickly sliding into neutral….”

    I don’t know about that, maybe by the SOIndex, but not by SSTs. Of course there’s a lag between the two parameters, and a further lag between the SOI and global temperatures, but SSTs don’t look much different than a month ago, and are still pretty “blue”.

    Regards, BRK

  • dhogaza // May 16, 2008 at 11:41 am

    but SSTs don’t look much different than a month ago, and are still pretty “blue”.

    This has changed rapidly in the PNW, where near-record cold has changed literally overnight to near-record highs.

    Last month and this month have brought my region interesting weather thanks in large part to La Niña. I’m curious to see what June will bring.

    And I’m curious to see how long it will take the denialsphere to proclaim the end of the recent three month ice age :)

  • Brian Klappstein // May 16, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    “…And I’m curious to see how long it will take the denialsphere to proclaim the end of the recent three month ice age :)…”

    I guess we’ll proclaim the end of the three month ice age, when it ends. My definition of the end will be 3 consecutive months of TMT and TLT anomalies over +0.2 degrees.

    Regards, BRK

  • JCH // May 16, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    I apologoze to Tamino. I intended to put the La Nina post on the open thread where it belongs.

    Brian and Harold, I did not intend to imply I think La Nina has reached neutral (sliding into should have been sliding toward). I agree with what you are saying. I think it will reach neutral, and after that it’s a crapshoot.

  • John Cross // May 16, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    Brian: so does that mean that your definition of an ice age includes temperatures that are less than + 0.2C above the TMT reference point?

    Regards,
    John

  • Brian Klappstein // May 18, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    John Cross:

    “…your definition of an ice age…”

    No. I’m carrying over the “ice age” label from dhogaza’s facetious comment. Let’s rename it the “current cool spell”. Assorted datasets for TMT and TLT have shown the monthly anomalies to be pretty consistently above 0.2 since 2001 (my eyeballing of the graphs), at least up until mid 2007. So if they can’t break above 0.2 anymore, maybe we’ve entered a new climate regime.

    Regards, BRK

  • Hank Roberts // May 18, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Sarcasm and facetiousness can always be taken literally on the Internet, and will be if it provides any rhetorical advantage to avoid a serious question. It’s one of the rules, I’m sure.

    “New climate regime” — probably what the two different studies (Hadley a few months back, Nature a week or two ago) are describing
    http://www.realclimate.org/images/KeenlysideFig4.jpg

    Suggesting a few years of relatively slower warming expected from the first attempts to model the near future.

  • Aaron Lewis // May 21, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    If the upward trend for annual tornado counts is a reporting bias, then it should stabilize as soon as the reporting system stabilized. That would have been no later than 1997. However, I do not see a kink in the red line above at 1997.

    When I was a kid in Tornado Alley, we had plenty of cold dry air. What we needed for tornadoes was warm moist air from the Gulf. However, as noted in my old Navy Airman’s Weather Manual, that flow was “Summer Only.” With global warming, the flow of warm moist air north is stronger and less seasonal – leading to more tornadoes, and tornadoes earlier in the season.

    In 2004, ~ 154 of the tornadoes were associated with tropical storms or hurricanes. (A couple of hurricanes coming ashore can really raise the tornado count.) However, one special swarm of that season started in La Grange Wyoming, on May 22. If we look at the frequency of tornadoes in Wyoming over the longer term we see that it is increasing. However, if we only look at the data since 1950, the trend is decreasing. Clearly there is not a reporting bias in Wyoming since 1950. (see plot in Section 7.4 of http://www.wrds.uwyo.edu/wrds/wsc/climateatlas/severe_weather.html ). Likewise, North Dakota data shows pronounced spikes in numbers for years 1965, 1976, and 1978. Yes there are more tornadoes on average in recent years, but the record numbers go back 20 and 30 years. There is no evidence for a reporting bias. A volunteer storm watcher with a stack of postcards does not give you all the details that a Doppler radar system provides, and the data is not recorded in real time, but the system worked even when the power went out. They saddled up and went out to check their stock. A thousand cowboys on horseback is a hell of a weather detection system. For years, those storm watchers did their jobs and the storms were recorded.

    The simple explanation for the upward trend in the number of tornadoes is an increased flow of latent heat across Tornado Alley hitting cold dry air from Canada or the Rockies. This is what http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter10.pdf is all about. The increase in the number of tornadoes is proof that the physics works. It just got here a bit early. So did sea ice melt in the Arctic.

  • bobw // May 21, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    Aaron - Tamino’s analysis doesn’t support what you are saying. I’ll take his approach over a thousand cowboys on horseback to draw any conclusions.

  • Harold Brooks // May 21, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    I’m not completely sure what Aaron is trying to argue here. If he wants to believe the tornado observing system stabilized by 1997, then I don’t see any way to claim an upward trend in the number of tornadoes. 2005-2007 were all below the 10-year mean (2006 and 2007 were the 4th and 5th smallest tornado report years since 1989).

    In any event, there’s no evidence that the tornado reporting system has stabilized. There have been two major changes in the way damage is assessed just since 2000. Also, increased emphasis on verification of warnings has led National Weather Service Forecast Offices to make more phone calls to collect reports when warnings are issued and the increase in chasing as a hobby has led to more tornadoes that cause little or no damage to be reported. The number of F0 tornadoes continues to increase. For 5 year blocks centered on the year given below, the mean number of F0 tornadoes per year has been:

    1955 99.2
    1960 113
    1965 142
    1970 155.6
    1975 224.2
    1980 298.4
    1985 345.4
    1990 515.8
    1995 748.2
    2000 776.2
    2005 863.8

    (I admit that the big part of the difference in the last two 5-year blocks is the ~400 hurricane-related tornadoes in 2004.)

    There’s no appreciable trend in the number of F1 and greater:

    1955 418
    1960 427.2
    1965 461.8
    1970 499.2
    1975 615.6
    1980 498
    1985 425.4
    1990 475.6
    1995 386.4
    2000 395
    2005 442.2

    (Note that the the biggest periods, centered on 1970, 1975, and 1980 are associated with the coldest US National average temperatures since 1920.)

    There is zero evidence to suggest a change in seasonality of F1 and greater tornadoes.

    The unreliability of the reporting databases is why the 2002 IPCC Workshop on Changes in Extreme Weather and Climate Events recommended focusing on developing relationships between large-scale environmental conditions (such as the convective available potential energy (CAPE), tropospheric wind shear, and lifted condensation level height) and events, such as tornadoes and large hail, using recent data, and then going back and looking at the frequency of occurrence of those conditions which have been observed more consistently than reports.

    Relationships between non-tornadic significant severe storms (hail >=2 in diameter, wind gusts >=65 kts) and large-scale environments are of better quality than those for tornadic storms. They indicate that, given reasonable adjustments for reporting changes in the hail database, which is of much lower quality even than the tornado database, we can explain much of the variance of large hail occurrence from the late-1950s to the late 1990s. CAPE, which is essentially a measure of the warm, moist air underneath cold, dry air aloft (the vertical profile is much more important than the horizontal profile) was high in the Plains of the US in the late 50s, dropped into the early-to-mid 70s, and then increased after that. It is important to note that this pattern is very different from the tornado occurrence pattern. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that the early 1970s were, indeed, the period of the 20th century with the most frequent strong tornadoes, rivalled perhaps by the mid-1920s. This is likely due to the fact that once you get to a relatively modest value of CAPE, say a few hundred J/kg, tornado occurrence is dominated by the vertical wind shear in the environment, so that increasing boundary layer moisture a little bit won’t have much of an impact on tornado occurrence

    I think that recent research, including three papers published since the AR4 came out and one more in review, provides some support for the notion that global warming will increase the frequency of very large hail, while decreasing the overall frequency of hail, but little to nothing can be said about tornado occurrence.

    If someone wants to argue that global warming has increased tornado occurrence based on the US tornado database, they have a very difficult intellectual exercise. If you believe the raw reports enough to think the increase in F0s supports a “warmer planet leads to more tornadoes” link, then you have to explain why you don’t believe the raw reports enough to note the decrease in the strongest tornadoes (e.g., ~4 F4 or F5 tornadoes per year from 2000-2006, compared to ~14 per year 30 years before.) My experiences with the database suggest that there are some periods and aspects of the database that are reasonably consistent-damage assessment in the 1990s, the distinction between F0 or greater than F0, as examples, but not a whole lot else.

    BTW, Tamino-the other paper that I referred to earlier in the thread isn’t available online, but if you can e-mail me, I’ll send you a Word copy of what was submitted.

  • Lost and Confused // May 25, 2008 at 4:31 am

    “If we look at the frequency of tornadoes in Wyoming over the longer term we see that it is increasing. However, if we only look at the data since 1950, the trend is decreasing.”

    Actually, no. If you look at the link offered, the trend from 1950 is increasing. The claim for a downward trend is based upon a linear fit, which is meaningless as its results depend solely upon picking endpoints.

  • Hank Roberts // May 26, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Looks to me like Aaron in posting
    http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/attack-of-the-50-foot-tornado/#comment-18695
    mistyped. Aaron, did you mean to refer to the green “shorter term trend” line, which is “since 1975″ not “since 1950″ — check please?
    This is the image:
    http://www.wrds.uwyo.edu/images/wrds/wsc/climateatlas/chapter07/fig711.gif

  • Lost and Confused // May 27, 2008 at 4:07 am

    There is no question that is some kind of mistake on Aaron’s part. There is only data starting from 1950 (and the data before 1970 is stated to not be reliable).

    Either way, the data does not support his claim. The decreasing trend he says disproves a reporting bias exists due to the picking of endpoints. This process is meaningless, as a different set of endpoints would give different results. To “prove” the point he is trying to make would require a more complex approach, though a simple rolling average would give a decent basis for determining if it has merit.

    I doubt it would be possible to “prove” his point though. With such a small dataset, showing the existence (or lack of existence) of a reporting bias is difficult at best.

  • Peekay Than // June 17, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    There have been many winter tornadoes the past few years. El Nino in 2006 and La Nina last year and this year. In earlier comments I heard there have been more winter tornadoes. Does La Nina cause more tornadoes. I also heard about global warming causing more El Ninos. Does it mean more tornadoes where?

  • Hank Roberts // August 1, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/mg19926671.800-is-climate-change-causing-an-upsurge-in-us-tornadoes.html

    Paywalled, just a teaser.
    Chris Mooney wrote it, maybe he’ s also blogged it?

  • pough // August 1, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Yup.
    http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2008/08/new_scientist_cover_story_on_t.php

    The take home message seems to be “it’s too complicated to say much more than it’s too complicated to say”, so of course the cover hints at the opposite. Good old media. They’re really not much better than comic books.

  • thingsbreak // August 1, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    Hank:

    Chris Mooney wrote it, maybe he’ s also blogged it?

    He blogged about it in some depth at Daily Green here.

    I have to say, that although I thought Storm World was pretty good, the more I read from Mooney the less I like him. He constantly bitches about how scientists are poor communicators. It gets old.

    In the NS piece he cites two studies, Del Genio et al. 2007 (PDF, which he references in the Daily Green piece) and Trapp et al. 2007.

    The thrust of the NS piece seems to be a caution that although AGW could increase the number of tornadoes in the future, scientists (who aren’t claiming that there is an impact already) should be wary not to get stuck in the same frame that hurricane-climate science has. A frame that he helped perpetuate…

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